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His idea of worth was different, his values were different. Eventually, not being able to share the things that really excite Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple - ideas - with him will start to undermine your comfort and devotion. You'll wonder why he Wife seeking sex tonight VA Trout dale 24378 love you enough to read this book or watch that PBS series, even though you'll know it has nothing to do with love but native ability.

Eventually you'll begin to doubt his intelligence - not publicly, but even worse: I don't think it's likely that a modern, stucent woman can truly respect a man whose intellect is less refined than her own, even if he is gentle, sweet-natured, and the embodiment of fidelity.

All of this sounds horrible, I realize, but it's happened to me. A good man is good, but a man who doesn't understand your life of mind is likely to leave you lonely. Depends what you mean by "non-intellectual.

I could be with a man who was not highly formally educated, but I could never be with someone who did not have a natural curiousity about the world around him, with lots of opinions and ideas, and the willingness and vocabulary to hash it all out over nice glass of alcohol.

He couldn't meet me halfwayI have to say that it doesn't sound like he was nonintellectual -- I've studied firearms and the inner workings of a gun are still a mystery to me -- just selfish.

The reason these concepts tend to be issues in relationships isn't because of the big picture, it's because of the small stuff - not "he doesn't Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple literature!! As things continue, your difference in backgrounds might rear up, but framed differently as you approach new issues - expectations for setting up house, having kids, raising and educating kids. But those aren't intrinsic to your backgrounds and educations, they're just a part of who you both are and how you fit.

Focus on each interaction as fitting two small puzzle pieces together, and don't worry about forming the big picture - that will take shape over time as all your daily interactions fall into place. As long as he is curious, I think the relationship will work because he will want to know more about what you're into and you should want to know more about what he's.

Just because someone has or has not been formally educated means. I work at a big, prestigious school and a solid half of the PhD Housewives wants hot sex Jefferson North Carolina are total mouth breathers that can barely tie their shoes. They might be idiot Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple.

You seem to 17225 sexy horny women spgs a lot of stock in educational credentials, so you're probably not a good match for someone who either doesn't have the credentials or doesn't value them the way you.

That rules out quite a few "intellectual" people maybe especially ones who have been through many years of education. An completely separate issue is interests: Don't worry about whether your partner's interests are "intellectual"; worry about whether they're the same as yours. You don't need to have all your interests in common, so how much is enough? I would say enough that you could talk to that person every day for years and still not get bored.

That's a tall order, but no one said it was supposed to be easy. I'm in a similar position to you well haven't got the PhD quite yet, but working on it. All the guys I have ever dated have been extremely intelligent and intellectual. It is a HUGE turn on for me. I don't think it's a question of a PhD or not a PhD or a question of any sort of qualification -- it's about intellectual curiosity -- I need to be with someone who's as interested as I am in teasing out the details of some political issue; or in seeing the latest performance at the local theater; or in reading really good fiction and discussing it.

These are all essential parts of a good relationship for me and I doubt I could be really happy with anyone who wasn't like. It is hard though, because often men don't seem to feel the same need to be with women who are intellectual -- so you are limiting you dating pool. But ultimately, if that's what's important to you, you might have to make some hard choices to get it. Dan Savage: The Price of Admission. I love this and think this is exactly what relationships are Sorry linker!

In some sense, it depends on what you enjoy sharing with a partner, and how you enjoy sharing it. Sex, for example, Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple not require great wit or years escort in marbella penury in ivory towers.

Amazing lovers rarely learned in classrooms, or approach academically. Conversation, on the other hand, can be a real Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple. It's tiring to talk to someone who is uninterested "I don't care about X or Y", "I'll never understand Z"and it can sometimes take the spark out of something to always be explaining the basics and tiring to the other partyor draining to you to withhold excitement because the back-explanation would be too arduous, or the point too fine.

I have friends and have had partners who are not absolute genii, but are the best ever companionscomrades, and experience-buddies. Far more important than book-learning or raw wit was their approach to life and the chemistry between us.

In my world, the desire to try new things and a "who's gonna stop us??! Turn the knob! Jump the line!

Eat the menu item you don't understand! Timidity and cautiousness is the opposite, a real mood-killer.

One great quality can compensate for. One relationship I had was with someone with whom I had an uncanny shared sense of aesthetics, in art, food, objects. Escorts dfw was a very powerful thing. That shared sense of enjoyment which extended across much of everyday life was a sustaining force for us. I loved spending time with her because it was enjoyable to share our delight in the fantqsy we like. The other thing was, it gave us a lot to talk about, and suggested new experiences.

Intellectual equals are great, but sometimes their narrowness -- or the fact that you haven't read the same books, or something, can be a bit ckuple a bore over time.

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Shared experiences can mitigate. On the other hand, seeing something art, music, the street with someone brain enough to reveal it, peel it apart, and expose it for what it is Your question Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple really about what you value in a relationship -- which is sharing your life with another person for some time.

You have to decide or really, figure out what you want to share with your partner, and. If you can't get it from them, you have to find another source for that thing. That path may or may not exclude the partner who can't or won't share the thing you love, depending on how you go.

The answer to this question is different for everyone, and probably unique to each partner. Some rare people will overwhelmingly hit on all but one or two points -- and overcome whatever's "missing". Some will not, but brains will overcome frailty or www fitness singles flaws.

For many, just a stunning sense of humor keeps them endlessly love-smacked. For what it's worth, I have become less interested in getting involved with people who don't understand my technical interests. These things are all-consuming for me, and not understanding them, or worse, being uninterested in them, means in some sense that I can't share a huge part of my existence. But with that in mind, never forget Wet pussy in Alexandria Virginia sometimes someone with a different approach, a different background or education, can reveal the world to you in a way that no like-minded person.

Maybe your person of interest has this quality, and you've more Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple learn from them and more to share with them than you think. I am a late 40's male.

But if I were a woman with a PhD and found a guy who was smart, kind, funny and full of character, eyzwideshut tampa only question I would have would be, "Does he satisfy me sexually? But, I would realize a few years down the line that I had made a mistake.

I'm not as educated as you, but I'm pretty nerdy. I definitely find I have a preference for salt-of-the-earth, smart-but-not-as-educated-as-me guys. I like the perspective they bring to our conversations. If I wasn't in Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple committed partnership, I'd think you were talking about me.

I also think you may be wrong about relative capacities. For example, I don't even have a bachelor's degree. Simply put, I Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple value them that highly. I'm not anti-intellectual, I just don't value academic degrees with an automatic reverence. Even more so, I do not think of myself as an intellectual, and more importantly don't put a big value on the company of those who think that "intellectual" is a goal or achievement.

Here's the thing. I am nude resort for swingers overwhelmingly smart in a symbol-manipulation kind of way. I hate to put it like that, it sounds so arrogant.

Additionally, whenever one makes a claim about intelligence, picky parsing of sentence structure is sure to follow. So be it. Many of the problems in my life have been based on the fact that unlike most people, I understand new ideas and areas-of-study quickly, thoroughly, and permanently.

I also have a very large and fast memory.

These were all great capacities when I was in school, and remain so as an adult. Yet, I had a hard time making and keeping friends until I realized that despite my symbol-manipulation backpage deroit, I am not universally good at. All arrogance aside, this studnet was a breakthrough for me. I am not good at natural languages, for example. I am also not good at physical learning.

I am not even a quarter as fast soman some of my friends at picking up a new salsa.

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Also, My emotional intelligence is fair-to-middlin'. It takes me a while to understand people who are more attuned to emotions. These are all areas that are quite important for adults, and yet often don't quite get considered when talking about intelligence.

The advice part I find that as I age mid 40's nowmore and more I value partners with different strengths than. I even value partners who are objectively my inferior in the symbol-manipulation skills what most people mean when they say "intelligent".

I Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple them because pfofessional exception, they are much better than me at some other useful, valuable, interesting area of adulthood. This is the only answer worth reading. Your question is no spokane roommates wanted than Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple a tall women ever love a short man?

WHICH short man. For what it's worth, I couldn't be in a relationship with someone too far from me in terms of intellectual and artistic matters. A huge amount of my relationship with my wife and, indeed, with former girlfriends -- and even with platonic friends revolves around discussing art and ideas. I guess I'm limited in that I don't know how to meaningfully relate long-term in other ways.

That's the point: I DON'T know. I don't play sports; I'm not that into gossip I'm a geek. I'm into ideas. I want to be with someone kind and good hook up websites and, luckily, I studemtbit it's not.

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On Wednesday night at 8pm, what are we going to talk about? Being kind and caring? If you have a separate best friend, then it may not matter to you so. Finally, I would do some serious soul-searching about what "intellectualism" means to you. cluple

Is it about profesdional or true thinking. It has to do with 1 desire to learn; 2 ability and desire to discuss abstract concepts; 3 ability to think logically. An auto-mechanic is just as likely if not more likely to have those abilities as a PhD. If I bring up "existentialism," I don't care if my wife doesn't know what that means. If she did, that wouldn't make her a bad person.

It would just make us incompatible. If intelligence is important for you in a partner then it's important for me: That was right at the top of my list of "must haves". But don't put it at the backpages fargo of the list just because you think you should, put it there because it matters to you.

Everyone else can judge you or not as they choose. You'll know that he can fix etudent in the house, always empties the dishwasher without being asked, and can make you laugh whatever your Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple which, to Hitchcock movie time surprise, you've discovered are the most important things for you.

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Who knew? You place a lot of value on your credential as an indicator of personal qualities discretr feel you have and he doesn't. This isn't going to end well for you discrets. Funny matters more than educated. I think being with someone Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple is different can lead to you gaining a better sense of yourself, to taking yourself less seriously, and not "doubling down" on the shared identity. Blah blah more well-rounded human.

Also I think it's quite possible that if you make "intelligence" or whatever you want to call it a big overriding factor in picking someone, then when you find someone eventually you will work out that one of you two is, after all, maybe just a leeeeeettle bit smarter and that difference will seem to grow bit by bit. Don't be a genius groupie. Perhaps more to the asian massage toronto The difference is going to be much less important than how each of you see and treat that shudent.

You say that you are a bookworm, a writer, a lover of ideas. Copule you be needing to talk with your SO about the books that you're worming? How would you want your SO to fit into your interest in writing? How do you mean you love ideas - do you crave being able to talk about higher ideas with Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple SO? And as for his side - upthread in this post, we had the story of the discretr who was into gun shows when the wife was not.

The problem wasn't that they had different interests, but that they couldn't meet halfway.

Will he meet you halfway to the extent that you chinese singles dating him to? Will you do the same for him? The difference in your interests is significant, but it is by no means fatal to your relationship.

It all depends Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple you two. The answer to your question is YES. And will MeMail you. But please don't use it because you don't want to derail the thread with personal details. Not normally. My mother born in the 50s has a master's degree. For several years, she had a perfectly decent relationship with a man who: But my mother told me free chating side she never thought booksmarts were the only definition of intelligence, and that she respected her boyfriend for his own talents and intelligence.

She must have, because they were together for quite a while, and split up eventually for unrelated reasons. Not to toot my horn, I'm pretty damn clever but I don't actually look for that in a partner - I'm not interested in intense intellectual discussions with my romantic partner. I want that stuff beyond qualifications; curiosity, awareness of the wider world, streetsmarts, empathy. I have dated post docs that had none of these, quite frankly. I mean, you're either sympatico, or you're not.

Personally, I like my man to make me laugh til I puke and be able to put up shelves. Intellectualism has at least two disparate components, the way I think of it.

I guess I think of "intellect" and the "ualism" as distiguishable. I, for one, as a PhD candidate and a woman, find the former an absolute necessity and turn-on in all companions, and observe that it commands a high amount of my respect, as attributes go. However, the second component is, to me, a turn-OFF. I come from Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple generally working-class family, and some of the hot-house flower, hip, nuru black massage, droll, urbane affectations I have observed among my academic peers of bluer blood or otherwise thoroughly cultured backgrounds and yes, I am showing something of a preference against SOME people from highly educated families here are tiresome, alienating, or somehow otherwise unattractive.

So, for myself, I could never see myself close in any regard with a person who is either 1. A friend of mine is in a similar situation. She's a very bright, educated, intellectual person--likes to discuss the deeper meanings of everything from Shakespeare to X-men comics. Her partner just isn't wired that way, but is warm, funny, loving, sane, supportive, and a good cook among other positive qualities.

It has been a struggle at times, but my friend has decided that if she wants to see a certain kind of movie and have a certain kind of conversation about it, that's just something she's going to have to do with other friends. It is a compromise for her; I think in her ideal world she'd have gotten the whole package in one person.

But I believe she's made peace with it and is very happy. Thanks to everyone who responded honestly without jumping to the conclusion that I am some pretentious asshole who expects everyone to call me Doctor. This has been very helpful. Relationships also depend quite a bit on temperament, which, for me, means one's Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple inclinations.

I was once in a relationship with a man who was, in many ways, an interesting, experienced and worldly type who could tell great stories. We were Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple in our preferences for introversion, but he sought movement and speed where I preferred stillness; I loved my dissertation research and he loved the fussiness of engines and fiddly technical stuff.

I leaned toward intellect and he leaned toward concrete knowledge. That was a bigger difference than I could handle because it meant that I was the one who always wanted to talk and think about the meanings of things, and had no partner in that enterprise.

Consequently, my sense of self was never completely at ease.

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So my question xtudent Are you temperamentally Doctlrate to one another? Are you at home with him, truly yourself in his presence? Here's best site to find a sugar momma quote from John Stuart Mill that I like: What marriage may be in the case of two persons of cultivated faculties, identical in opinions and purposes, between whom there exists that best kind of equality, similarity of powers and reciprocal superiority in them—so that each can enjoy the luxury of looking up to the other, and can have alternately the pleasure of leading and of being led in the path of development—I will not attempt to Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple.

To those who can conceive it, there is no need; to those who cannot, it would appear Meet sexy singles in Garner Iowa dream of an enthusiast. Happily, I think we've come a long way from his time and for many of us, this is the kind of ideal picture of a good relationship.

I'm fajtasy you're interested in this picture of a relationship, where equality is important. If so, the question is do you have adult sex home superiority? If he has areas of superiority that you can genuinely respect and learn from and admire, and he genuinely respects yours, then yes. I know a number of highly educated and intellectual women who are in satisfying relationships with men who are not intellectuals by any stretch.

But their partners have strengths practicality, real-world knowledge, emotional resilience and warmth, etcthat my friends genuinely respect. Will he go to plays with Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple When you travel, will he go to museums with you? If you go to a dinner party, will he hate it if it's a group of well-educated people playing word games? Will you go fishing with him?

If you go to a barbecue and his friends are talking about hunting, will you hate it? Shared experiences build the relationship. Shared values are critical.

Think about what you want the relationship to be like in 15 years; if you can totally imagine him there, that's a good sign. I have two bachelors degree and 1 diacrete degree. My husband just has a high school diploma.

We've been happily married for 18 Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple. My parents had a fairly big black escort intelligence gap, but it wasn't a problem - they both loved to travel and see new things, even if the reasons for doing so were different.

For example, they'd go to a museum because my dad was interested in how things workedand my mom in how things looked. But the important thing was Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple they liked to discover new things together, even if they didn't or couldn't share what they saw on the cuple level.

There is a huge difference in personality types between " calculus is tricky for me to wrap my head around " and flat-out, " I hate learning ".

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But, if he is the sort of non-intellectual who staunchly opposes even the very idea of learning something new and I'm talking simple things like appreciating new foods, going to a unique tourist spot over a theme park. Yes, I could Otherwise, deal breaker. I have had two serious relationships with people who didn't go to college. The main place Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple difference manifested as a potential problem was when they expressed Doctorate student 4 discrete fantasy w professional woman or couple that they didn't belong in "my world" or would be looked down on by my grad school friends.

It took one or two "no way, you're great and smart, and fuck them if they can't see that"-type comments with one person for this issue to go away entirely, but with the other, it became an ongoing issue that made Country girl looking for whatever happens or love hard to have a shared social world. It also came up during fights "you just think you can outsmart me if we keep discussing this!

Even dkscrete being judgmental or pretentious in the slightest, your guy could project coyple own insecurities onto the education gap. Me though? I really enjoyed dating men who applied their skills and intelligence to the physical and interpersonal worlds as opposed to the intellectual book world, and I had more than enough neurotic intellectual overachieverdom for us. My SO grew up as an orphan in a third world country. Am I embarassed by him when he's around my educated friends?

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